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Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:36:32 -0000

Yeah opt-in is definitely not the right solution and you're also right that faces don't cause, only exacerbate, the spoofing problem.

If you're able to reach a certain size without this becoming a major issue I suspect a lot of the major blog providers will be more willing to open up aspects of their systems.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:36:32 -0000

Yeah opt-in is definitely not the right solution and you're also right that faces don't cause, only exacerbate, the spoofing problem. If you're able to reach a certain size without this becoming a major issue I suspect a lot of the major blog providers will be more willing to open up aspects of their systems.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Eric Marcoullier — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:55:09 -0000

We're certainly not ready to tackle that problem. Because it's a huge monster, it's going to require integration with every major blog provider, and they don't have any real reason to make it safer for people to operate outside their walled gardens. So yes, faces can exacerbate, but don't create, spoofing issues. Once we reach a certain size I hope we can help address some of the root causes.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Eric Marcoullier — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:55:09 -0000

Fraser -- it is a challenge, to say the least. The primary obstacle is that comments are an inherently insecure system. I can post something right now and say I'm you on most any blog on the web. And things like Typekey and OpenID, which are supposed to combat this, don't help because they're all opt-in. And who can blame them -- if you made all your commenters log in via OpenID, you'd have a fraction of the comments. We're certainly not ready to tackle that problem. Because it's a huge monster, it's going to require integration with every major blog provider, and they don't have any real reason to make it safer for people to operate outside their walled gardens. So yes, faces can exacerbate, but don't create, spoofing issues. Once we reach a certain size I hope we can help address some of the root causes.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Howard — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:49:05 -0000

its cool and I am happy to here this stuff. Very exciting tool.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Howard — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:49:05 -0000

its cool and I am happy to here this stuff. Very exciting tool.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

candice — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:46:26 -0000

Awesome. Thanks y'all.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

candice — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:46:26 -0000

Awesome. Thanks y'all.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:45:26 -0000

Hey Eric, thanks for the very quick fix. Impressive!

So anyone who leaves a comment and url that has a photo linked to it in MyBlogLog has that photo show up? I didn't know that... interesting.

Doesn't that have implications for lending credibility to spoofing, unless you know that photos are not directly linked to your MBL login?

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Eric Marcoullier — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:25:11 -0000

Fixed!

And even though I said I wasn't going to post a followup, I want to clarify something for Candace. You don't need to be logged into MBL in order to have your picture show up -- the reason the picture didn't show up was because the URL from your comment didn't exactly match the URL you entered for it at MyBlogLog (the trailing URL got us).

We want things to be easy. Transparent. Automatic. The goal is that you do the things you already do and now it just has additional value. Your picture shows up in comments. You join communities. And a lot more we're not quite ready to talk about yet ;) Please let us know whenever you feel like we're making you jump through hoops because those are the places where we're not doing our job well enough.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Eric Marcoullier — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:02:48 -0000

Candice and Fraser -- we're looking into why your picture isn't showing up on this page. I'll either post the reason it's not showing up when we know more, or your avatar will show up and I won't waste anyone's time with another post :)

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:45:26 -0000

Hey Eric, thanks for the very quick fix. Impressive! So anyone who leaves a comment and url that has a photo linked to it in MyBlogLog has that photo show up? I didn't know that... interesting. Doesn't that have implications for lending credibility to spoofing, unless you know that photos are not directly linked to your MBL login?

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:36:25 -0000

Hi Candace, I think that if you're already logged in the photo should automatically appear... but I see from the recent reader thing that you were just here and yet your comment has "add photo" beside it.

Strange.

Maybe the MyBlogLog guys have an idea - I'll let them know of the issue.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Eric Marcoullier — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:25:11 -0000

Fixed! And even though I said I wasn't going to post a followup, I want to clarify something for Candace. You don't need to be logged into MBL in order to have your picture show up -- the reason the picture didn't show up was because the URL from your comment didn't exactly match the URL you entered for it at MyBlogLog (the trailing URL got us). We want things to be easy. Transparent. Automatic. The goal is that you do the things you already do and now it just has additional value. Your picture shows up in comments. You join communities. And a lot more we're not quite ready to talk about yet ;) Please let us know whenever you feel like we're making you jump through hoops because those are the places where we're not doing our job well enough.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Eric Marcoullier — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:02:48 -0000

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:36:25 -0000

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

candice — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:32:54 -0000

Now if I could just add a picture to my comment when I'm already logged in to mybloglog without having to jump through hoops, it would be great.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

candice — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:32:54 -0000

Now if I could just add a picture to my comment when I'm already logged in to mybloglog without having to jump through hoops, it would be great.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:20:20 -0000

Thanks Fred.

I'd like one of the groups to offer a suite of the current features so that I don't rely on multiple sites to get the value I current do. This is fractioning the community effect as some portion of the community resides on some sites and not on others.

I'm part of a few different offline communities and I'd like to see the ability to separate communities eventually come online - whie retaining a single place to aggregate the benefits.

As the features of traditional walled social networks become available what are the features that can now be available to uncentralized nodes on a network? I can think of a few but I'm not sure if they can be implemented at this point.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:20:20 -0000

Thanks Fred. I'd like one of the groups to offer a suite of the current features so that I don't rely on multiple sites to get the value I current do. This is fractioning the community effect as some portion of the community resides on some sites and not on others. I'm part of a few different offline communities and I'd like to see the ability to separate communities eventually come online - whie retaining a single place to aggregate the benefits. As the features of traditional walled social networks become available what are the features that can now be available to uncentralized nodes on a network? I can think of a few but I'm not sure if they can be implemented at this point.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

fred — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:35:29 -0000

nice post fraser. what is the top of your wish list for the next community feature?

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

fred — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:35:29 -0000

nice post fraser. what is the top of your wish list for the next community feature?

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:47:33 -0000

Smile. It's going to be bigger than guns and bigger than cigarettes (for some company). Really.

Re: MyBlogLog: Community Catalyst (or, Planting The Seeds Of A Disruptive Thoughts Community)

Fraser — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:47:33 -0000

Smile. It's going to be bigger than guns and bigger than cigarettes (for some company). Really.